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Sheldon-clone Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2014
You included Karl Marx, but not Ayn Rand?
I despise that man and his irrational philosophy.
Bernard-Karp Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014
Einstein was an Agnostic Jew, he wasn't Atheist.
EmmetEarwax Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I have a tract on the alleged dying words of atheists and irreligious. About 4 I know are forgeries, and many I can't identify, so whether they even existed I don't know.

I believe in an afterlife but not in any hell. Ogre preachers.
joeisbadass Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
You should throw Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, and Pol Pot in there as well
ToxicMutagen Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2014  Student General Artist
There are bad atheists and good atheists just as much as there are bad christians
And pretty much all bad christians but there might be a good one
I have no clue
I have yet to meet one
joeisbadass Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
And I have yet to meet a bad christian, but I know lots and lots of good ones. Imagine a world without the church: Billions and billions of charity money lost forever
ToxicMutagen Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2014  Student General Artist
Imagine a world without religon:

We would have the twin towers
Millions of lives would not have been destroyed
Hundreds of wars would go down the drain

People donate through the church, not because of the church.  I'm an atheist and I donate.  It's sad how Christians only donate because a book tells them to, if that's what you're saying.
joeisbadass Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Some Christians do, some do not. Now imagine what would happen a decade or so after religion was wiped out

Dictators would come into power and establish personality cults

Lots more wars would happen in the name of political ideology to replace wars that happen because of religion

People have no concrete moral guidance, and no sense of faith or hope for humanity because they had lost their god, so they have nothing to turn to except the corrupt politicians causing the wars in the first place

Don't believe me? Just look to communism (which was founded by Karl Marx, one of the 'great' atheist minds you have up there), fascism, and imperialism throughout history. Tens of millions of deaths happened from communism alone and none of those genocides have had anything to do with religion.
ChiefAsparagus Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist

Your view of humanity saddens me. Maybe as a young species we needed religion to comprehend the world. But as the modern world stands, we would lose nothing if religion dissipated. People have morality through empathy and benefit, we understand right from wrong through experience and education. Concrete moral "guidance" only leads to hatred, it only leads to bigotry. Any religion that has dominated a society has committed atrocities and yet, in secular society there has been none. Dogma is dangerous, the only faith I need is in knowledge and perseverance as a species. By the way, Hitler was a Catholic. And none of the atrocities caused by Communism come close to the death tolls brought on by religion, specifically Christianity and Islam, feel free to google the Islamic expansion and then the crusades, the inquisition and witch burning. Say what you will about humanity, but it has committed more sins in the name of "God" than in spite of him.
joeisbadass Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I actually have done some extent of research regarding death tolls and I can tell you that communism has been accounted for far more deaths in just a century than muslims and christians combined death tolls in half a millennium. Mao Zedong alone killed at least 50,000,000 people, and yet the most infamous genocide committed by Christians, the Spanish Inquisition, combined with the most infamous war involving Christians and Muslims, the Crusade-Sarasan conflict amounts to about 3 million.………
I'm not gonna disagree with you that dogma is dangerous, but so is socialism, capitalism, nationalism, internationalism, and yes, atheism too. All the mentioned things though, can cause great good as well. Capitalism has been known to cause great harm to the environment, but it also builds our houses and makes our food. Socialism led to the dictatorships of the Soviet Union and Maoist China but it's also what created the first unions. Similarly, religion has been known to breed holy wars and bigotry against gays, women, and people who don't follow one's own religion, but then, since ancient times science and cooperation with the natural world has been and still is endorsed by many religions (especially the eastern religions, pagan religions, and islam), and many charities are driven by religion including the most effective one (the Roman Catholic Church). While it is true that places like Sweden and Norway are highly secularized and have seen much peace, it's also true that their military and their economy isn't impressive enough to receive any threat, so response to such threat wouldn't be necessary (in contrast to Israel, America, and South Korea, who either have very powerful economies and militaries, live right by countries that hate them, or both). The basic point I'm trying to get at though is that society usually looks to either religion or government for moral guidance in addition to survival-related morals. Because Sweden and Norway are both democracies, and because they have a past as a christian nation their drawing of morals from their government is weaker than say, Cambodia, who's Khmer Rouge killed about 3 million people largely because of the party's anti-religious sentiment. A country without religion is one thing, but a world without it may very likely result in a rise in dictatorships worldwide and to say otherwise is purely utopian.
BTW Hitler was a heavy critic of the Roman Catholic Church, and he likely executed christians and atheists alike so whatever his religious mentality was is irrelevant to what he did as a leader.
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